Cricket Game?

[SteveG]

Mario, considering the poor quality of Cricket games, has Sidhe thought of doing one? Obviously, it would have a big market not just in Australia and NZ, but a very big one in India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka etc.

EASports and Codemasters have tried and failed miserably with their versions due to not listening to what fans want from a cricket game.

Any thought given seriously to a locally made cricket game?

[Peaches]

Yes Sidhe, this is a very good point/idea for you guys because if you made a cricket game that is succesful, you would have a swimming pool full of money (you probably already do ;) ) And have alot of satisfied cricket fans over the world!

Codemasters and espessially EA have miserably failed at cricket games lately and a game from you guys would rock! :)

[Mario]

As there are already two competitors of reasonable capability in the markplace, its unlikely we would look at a cricket title.

[Prince EWS]

As there are already two competitors of reasonable capability in the markplace, its unlikely we would look at a cricket title.

Thats generous IMO!

I buy every cricket title that comes out, and give them all quite a fair workout, but I only really do so because they are cricket games, and I love cricket. I generally dont think the games are much good - that is, they could be much better. Im quite sure Sidhe would do a better job on a cricket game than Codies or EA.

[Radman]

As there are already two competitors of reasonable capability in the markplace, its unlikely we would look at a cricket title.
I think if you guys did give it a crack, with all the fan feedback you receive on these forums you would or could certainly give them a good run for their money. ;) :)

[supermike]

Yes and to be honest the only cricket games out are CRAP. I do not think you will have any competition if you do what us fans want. Then we can't complain because thats what we asked for. Saying that, you should only make a sports game if you are passionate about that sport, that's the only reason it would be a failure, if you were not passionate about it.

[Radman]

Yes and to be honest the only cricket games out are CRAP. I do not think you will have any competition if you do what us fans want. Then we can't complain because thats what we asked for. Saying that, you should only make a sports game if you are passionate about that sport, that's the only reason it would be a failure, if you were not passionate about it.
Mate, I'd be so into this if they were to do it ;) :) .

[SteveG]

I don't think there are any 'reasonable' competitors out there at all. EA has consistantly failed at every attempt...and not just failed, totally screwed it up.

Codemasters have only succeeded in producing a shallow, arcade game that most serious gamers gave up on after a week.

But, I understand that you don't want to compete with EASports. They are as big as they are because no-one likes competing with them. Problem is that we have to put up with sub-standard games because of it.

[mheath]

I don't think there are any 'reasonable' competitors out there at all. EA has consistantly failed at every attempt...and not just failed, totally screwed it up.


You actually play the latest EA game? I reckon the improvment in 2006 (?) from the last years games was massive, I found no bugs, the controls were smooth, bowling felt natural, and it never crashed.

I don't think it's so much the fact that the 2 existing games are so good or whatever, but the fact they exist already. It probably would'nt matter how good it was, the fact there are 2 other franchises, means it just won't be profitable.

And don't say anything about India\Sub Continent, most of those places are just full of piracy, they might not sell many copies at all.

[stevil]

Ricky Ponting cricket is pretty good. For sidhe to start a cricket game they'd have to start from scratch. Even if no-one likes the current games on the market its a firm base to start from. By the time sidhe popped out a cricket game (while working on RL3, RL2 patches, and the various racing games) there would be other cricket games out which would be higher quality as to whats there now.

I say if they want to make a new sports game go for lawn bowls :D its rather under rated and I think would make for an action packed game with just HOURS of game playability

[supermike]

Mate, I'd be so into this if they were to do it ;) :) .
So would I! :D

(while working on RL3, RL2 patches, and the various racing games)
Who said they were making a new RL? All they've said is a possible RL3

[stevil]

Who said they were making a new RL? All they've said is a possible RL3

Whose to say they don't go bust tomorrow? freak termite accident in the offices or a power surge kills all the computers could wipe them out ;) Nothing is set, but I'm sure they'd make RL3 before cricket :) (given they retain the rights of course)

[supermike]

Whose to say they don't go bust tomorrow? freak termite accident in the offices or a power surge kills all the computers could wipe them out ;) Nothing is set, but I'm sure they'd make RL3 before cricket :) (given they retain the rights of course)

Well we all hope they can make a RL3 AND a cricket game

[SteveG]

You actually play the latest EA game? I reckon the improvment in 2006 (?) from the last years games was massive, I found no bugs, the controls were smooth, bowling felt natural, and it never crashed.

I don't think it's so much the fact that the 2 existing games are so good or whatever, but the fact they exist already. It probably would'nt matter how good it was, the fact there are 2 other franchises, means it just won't be profitable.

And don't say anything about India\Sub Continent, most of those places are just full of piracy, they might not sell many copies at all.

Yes, I've owned and played all of EA's cricket games, plus Codemasters Brian Lara Cricket '99 and Brian Lara International Cricket, plus Empire's International Cricket Captain series, and many others.

You are right though, Cricket 2005 is a vast improvement on 2004, but thats not really saying anything...2004 was probably the worst sports game I have ever played in my 20-odd years of gaming. I play 2005 regularly, mainly because IT IS the only half decent cricket game. BLIC was pretty bad I'm afraid, but obviously thats my opinion.

I like some depth to the game play and no cricket game has managed to merge good gameplay with an immersive management side.

As much as I respect Mario and Sidhe's views on why they wouldn't produce a cricket, I certainly don't agree. There would be a lot bigger market for a cricket game than for a Rugby League game, just on the amount of countries that play cricket.

As far as piracy on the sub-continent goes, you only have to look at some of the cricket game forums to see that many fans from those regions buy the game and don't resort to piracy. Fair enough, there is lot of piracy, but how many people in Australia download software using BitTorrent or P2P? Lots. Its a worldwide problem, not restricted to geographic or economic regions.

I'm not disappointed that Mario doesn't think there is a market for them in cricket games, I'm more disappointed that everyone lets EASports and Codemasters get away with substandard games. In the end, all the modders do what these two companies were too lazy to do.

[RoosterBoy]

Who's going to buy a game with no licenses at all?
At least Codemaster's has the ICC license but still people are not buying the game because of lack of licences.
Personally i enjoyed RPIC/BLIC and so do a lot of other people in the world and according to the channel nine commentry team, the game has surpassed that 500k to make platinum and for Cricket 2005 it is probably the hardest cricket game ever created but still so popular around the globe by hitting platinum. If there games are going platinum then who gets a say whether they get to create the next version or not?
Codemasters and EA are companies which are known worldwide and I don't think it will be anytime soon that SIDHE will be able to create a cricket game.

[ak47]

Who's going to buy a game with no licenses at all?
At least Codemaster's has the ICC license but still people are not buying the game because of lack of licences.
Personally i enjoyed RPIC/BLIC and so do a lot of other people in the world and according to the channel nine commentry team, the game has surpassed that 500k to make platinum and for Cricket 2005 it is probably the hardest cricket game ever created but still so popular around the globe by hitting platinum. If there games are going platinum then who gets a say whether they get to create the next version or not?
Codemasters and EA are companies which are known worldwide and I don't think it will be anytime soon that SIDHE will be able to create a cricket game.

RPIC is ing EA all over the charts...........and codies have indirectly confirmed, a sequal will be on the way..........its pretty much now public knowledge RPIC is the #1cricket game of the current consoles....gamerankings and sales depict this trend.

For Sidhe to do cricket, they'd be up against Codies, whom have owned the best cricket games on each console....Warnies and now RPIC....thats very stiff competition, especially considering codies have hinted sequels in the future thus their stranglehold on this genre, will be present.

I'd rather Sidhe continue with league, and not be distracted by any other genre's (except perhaps MCC :p )..........league is ok.....not awesome, but on par with other rugby titles, yet appear to do more than EA when improving, so in the next 1 or 2 editions of rugby league (u said u'd be in for the long haul on the 'behind the scenes'), i can see some yanky eye popping game, that will grab the attention of bigger markets, regardless of the sport, coz the foundations of league are promising in making a truly awesome PES type league game.

Leave cricket to codies....Warnies was the best, they have it ready to go bang.........HB/EA just keep on pinching our hard earned, with lollied up, PATCH worthy efforts........heck u cant even save mid match on the xbox version of EA cricket...and its pathetic tragic holes like this prove in black and white, that HB/EA programming/development efforts are alot to be desired.

[Radman]

I'd rather Sidhe continue with league, and not be distracted by any other genre's .
(off topic)Except perhaps Rugby?. How about a Rugby game made by Sidhe, from the greatest Rugby Nation on Gods Green Earth. And with Rugby Leagues game engine they are half way there, with a few tweaks here and there I can't see why Sidhe couldn't make a Best selling Rugby title that could destroy EA once and for all muahahaha!. ;) :)

[mheath]

RPIC only got more sales because they really, massively over hyped the game, and large advertisements, promised features that are alot worse than advertised, I've heard a tonne of people took it back.

They also got a huge boost from the ashes series.

[SteveG]

RPIC is ing EA all over the charts...........and codies have indirectly confirmed, a sequal will be on the way..........its pretty much now public knowledge RPIC is the #1cricket game of the current consoles....gamerankings and sales depict this trend.

For Sidhe to do cricket, they'd be up against Codies, whom have owned the best cricket games on each console....Warnies and now RPIC....thats very stiff competition, especially considering codies have hinted sequels in the future thus their stranglehold on this genre, will be present.

I'd rather Sidhe continue with league, and not be distracted by any other genre's (except perhaps MCC :p )..........league is ok.....not awesome, but on par with other rugby titles, yet appear to do more than EA when improving, so in the next 1 or 2 editions of rugby league (u said u'd be in for the long haul on the 'behind the scenes'), i can see some yanky eye popping game, that will grab the attention of bigger markets, regardless of the sport, coz the foundations of league are promising in making a truly awesome PES type league game.

Leave cricket to codies....Warnies was the best, they have it ready to go bang.........HB/EA just keep on pinching our hard earned, with lollied up, PATCH worthy efforts........heck u cant even save mid match on the xbox version of EA cricket...and its pathetic tragic holes like this prove in black and white, that HB/EA programming/development efforts are alot to be desired.

Well, each to their own I guess...if you think RPIC is a true representation of cricket then you are easily pleased, its an arcade game not a simulation. But, thats my opinion.

The point of this thread is whether it would be a good idea for Sidhe to produce a cricket game. And, according to you because Codemasters and EASport are big companies they should keep turning out crap, because 'hey, they do a half-decent job'.

I'd like to see a company actually listen to what consumers want rather than dish up $89 worth of crap and sucker everyone in with a slick advertising campaign. I'd like to see a small company produce a great little game that puts them all to shame, by giving people what they want. I must be asking too much.

[Radman]

Well, each to their own I guess...if you think RPIC is a true representation of cricket then you are easily pleased, its an arcade game not a simulation. But, thats my opinion.

The point of this thread is whether it would be a good idea for Sidhe to produce a cricket game. And, according to you because Codemasters and EASport are big companies they should keep turning out crap, because 'hey, they do a half-decent job'.

I'd like to see a company actually listen to what consumers want rather than dish up $89 worth of crap and sucker everyone in with a slick advertising campaign. I'd like to see a small company produce a great little game that puts them all to shame, by giving people what they want. I must be asking too much.
Here here.

[supermike]

Well, each to their own I guess...if you think RPIC is a true representation of cricket then you are easily pleased, its an arcade game not a simulation. But, thats my opinion.

The point of this thread is whether it would be a good idea for Sidhe to produce a cricket game. And, according to you because Codemasters and EASport are big companies they should keep turning out crap, because 'hey, they do a half-decent job'.

I'd like to see a company actually listen to what consumers want rather than dish up $89 worth of crap and sucker everyone in with a slick advertising campaign. I'd like to see a small company produce a great little game that puts them all to shame, by giving people what they want. I must be asking too much.

I know, it's stupid, RPIC is the best out there, but its not world beating

[ak47]

Well, each to their own I guess...if you think RPIC is a true representation of cricket then you are easily pleased, its an arcade game not a simulation. But, thats my opinion.

The point of this thread is whether it would be a good idea for Sidhe to produce a cricket game. And, according to you because Codemasters and EASport are big companies they should keep turning out crap, because 'hey, they do a half-decent job'.

I'd like to see a company actually listen to what consumers want rather than dish up $89 worth of crap and sucker everyone in with a slick advertising campaign. I'd like to see a small company produce a great little game that puts them all to shame, by giving people what they want. I must be asking too much.

Yes but Sidhe havent made a true representation of League, thus I doubt on a 1st attempt they could do the same for cricket.

Leave cricket with codies to make better.....from the attmepts thus far, they are on track, EA isnt.........and again Sidhe is on track with League.

League is NOT worth $89.00 either (same as ur RPIC view) and the only reason i still have it coz i got a free controller, thus was really a $50.00 game.

And for them to make Rugby, they gotto streamline the movement of the players from RL2, coz the actual step by step movement of players is more responsive in EA Rugby, than RL2.

Codemasters do listen to the fans...ask Rubbergenius from the planetcricketforums.....he is the Mario of the Codies Cricket series.....has a public forum for feedback, just like this place.

EA can get rooted, from all corners of the globe.....I want competition to up the EA antics....codies and sidhe should both join the fray, but in the own field of specialty, (codie cricket, sidhe league) so they dont suffer, by trying something new.

[RoosterBoy]

Well, maybe you guys should look at the EAplay cricket section and see what ideas they have and when the game comes out compare it with the ideas.

[SteveG]

For me to buy the next version of RPIC/BLIC it would have to include domestic cricket and a less arcadish feel to it. Certainly, the player movements were good, and graphics were nice too. I think the majority of cricket fans that buy cricket games want realism, good gameplay and a large range of career options. Hopefully, Codemasters can listen to this...because RubberGenius was told this, but not a lot made it into the released game.

In saying that, at least they tried, which is a hell of a lot more than HB Studios did with Cricket 2005. They added a few bells and whistles, prettied up the graphics and suckered us all in again. I was one who stated on the Cricket2004 forum that I would never but another cricket game from EASports, and I kept that promise...until someone gave it to me as a gift LOL, so I didn't really waste my money.

Its a valid point about concentrating on Rugby League 2 and its future versions, but I still maintain a cricket game would be more profitable...in addition to the RL series.

[RoosterBoy]

Well, until EA and Codemasters have used just about every idea and done everything possible to the game, (probably a Ps4 game) then SIDHE should get a go.

[stevil]

Well, until EA and Codemasters have used just about every idea and done everything possible to the game, (probably a Ps4 game) then SIDHE should get a go.

I still say lawn bowls. think I'll right up an offical proposal and drop Mario a line. Its an untouched market not unlike League. There are millions of people that play lawn bowls. If you get a conversion rate of say 90% and sell the game at $99.95 with the production cost of $5 per copy you are set to make..... well alot ;)

Another major problem is the rights to soccer, cricket, NFL, etc are all owned already. if sidhe made a game would have to use false names which just isn't as fun.

[RoosterBoy]

Yeh, that's another problem. Would SIDHE be able to match up to the big companies?
At just about every sport game there is at least 2 competitors.
Cricket: EA vs. Codemasters
Soccer: EA vs. Konami
Rugby: EA vs. Swordfish etc...

[Mario]

I still say lawn bowls.

Heh, our Christmas function was at a lawn bowls club. Good fun, but I'm not sure it would make a compelling videogame :)

[supermike]

What every cricket game has been missing is a franchise mode or career mode.

[lebgend]

r they any good on ps2

[ausnrl]

I Got RPIC wehn they sai dthey dont hav licences to names they still say their proper name in commetnry just not often. Plus people donwload mods to chagne their naems to be original anyway

[alex_the_rooster_man]

What every cricket game has been missing is a franchise mode or career mode.

Nah the games have been too easy and should be very very difficult at the start of an innings to suit match conditions here are a list of ideas

1. Averages for the players and the computer
2. Harder Conditons
3. More Spin from the spinners
4. Generating innings
5. Franchise ..including training
6. Make the players look like who they are eg Ricky Pointing and Justin Langer look nothing alike when they play
7. Make the training so if you train hard the player will move his foot more to the ball
8. Leg - cutters/ off- cutters so it is obvious to see and more cut with the new ball and in the mornings
9.Bowling Actions . make it like the players eg. McGrath and Lee dont look anything alike when they bowl
10. Head to Head Statitics
11. Yearly Statitics
12. Game Career Statitics
13. Normal Career Statitics
14. Domestic Competetions
15. Alot Better create-a-player

Plus alot more would be great in a newer cricket game

[supermike]

In RPIC the players get a good amount of spin

[ausnrl]

Nah the games have been too easy and should be very very difficult at the start of an innings to suit match conditions here are a list of ideas

1. Averages for the players and the computer
2. Harder Conditons
3. More Spin from the spinners
4. Generating innings
5. Franchise ..including training
6. Make the players look like who they are eg Ricky Pointing and Justin Langer look nothing alike when they play
7. Make the training so if you train hard the player will move his foot more to the ball
8. Leg - cutters/ off- cutters so it is obvious to see and more cut with the new ball and in the mornings
9.Bowling Actions . make it like the players eg. McGrath and Lee dont look anything alike when they bowl
10. Head to Head Statitics
11. Yearly Statitics
12. Game Career Statitics
13. Normal Career Statitics
14. Domestic Competetions
15. Alot Better create-a-player

Plus alot more would be great in a newer cricket game

On www.planetcricket.net theyre making this game called the Cricket project its pretty good. It would be free.

http://www.planetcricket.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=106
http://www.planetcricket.net/modules.php?name=News&file=showarticle&threadid=15770

you can even post suggestions in the top link of the 2 above.

but i suggest a cricket game should hav an umpire mode