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Arkle
12-05-2006, 06:24 AM
THE owners of Kentucky Derby winner Barbaro have raised the intriguing possibility of running him in Europe at some time in his career – with the Arc de Triomphe as first choice.

Barbaro, a brilliant winner at Churchill Downs by the widest margin for 60 years, is now heading for the second leg of the US Triple Crown, the Preakness Stakes on Saturday week.

He runs in the colours of Lael Stables, the racing operation of owner-breeders Roy and Gretchen Jackson, who also bred 2,000 Guineas winner George Washington.

Barbaro won three races on turf, including a Graded race, before being switched to dirt by trainer Michael Matz with such good effect. According to the Thoroughbred Times, the Jacksons are interested in trying him again on the surface in Europe at some point, with the Arc as a possible target.

“Wouldn’t that be a great thing?” Roy Jackson said. “People always come here to win our Breeders’ Cup races, so it would be something to go over there and run.”

The Jacksons are no strangers to racing in Europe, having had that speedy filly Superstar Leo in training with William Haggas.

Indeed, a question was raised at the post-Derby press conference asking whether they might even consider Epsom rather than a crack at the Triple Crown.

While that is a fanciful idea, Roy Jackson joked that Longchamp had certain attractions, saying: “Gretchen and D D Matz [Michael’s wife] would love to go to the Arc de Triomphe, because they want to go shopping in Paris.”

Given their sporting nature – the Jacksons turned down a $5 million offer for Barbaro after he had won the Laurel Futurity as ajuvenile – a visit to the Arc is not such a far-fetched concept.

But although Ascot are seldom slow to approach connections of leading foreign-trained horses, their public relations director Nick Smith isn’t planning to pursue Barbaro yet with a view to the King George.

“If they are still standing at the Breeders’ Cup, then obviously we’d speak to them about the next year’s King George,” said Smith. “But it is a little bit early – you’d never get an American three-year-old in the race.”

TEKNIQUE
12-05-2006, 07:33 AM
na, thats just wishfull thinking. i dont think they will send barbaro to europe he is a much better horse on dirt then turf.

Top Of The Lane
12-05-2006, 12:46 PM
LMAO.. they will be sending him to Europe after Bother Derek gets a clean trip in the Preakness....

Mark my words... BROTHER DEREK is the real champ and with Lava Man eating up the turf...Barbaro might have to look forward to the BC mile....

TEKNIQUE
13-05-2006, 07:50 AM
ha, brother derek is NOTHING but WEST COAST HYPE. he showed nothing in the derby he was out CLASSED. i love when this time of the year comes around. when the best from the west come to the east to get killed. the east has been RULEING the triple crown races for the past 5 years and i think this will continue with barbaro. and by the way why should barbaro be in the bc mile?

Top Of The Lane
13-05-2006, 12:05 PM
well... lets see just how much the east has rulled...

since I was born 82
west coast jockeys have won 15 of 25 * not counting Chris A. on strike gold *
horses from the west... correct me if im wrong

1982-Gato del Sol
1986-Ferdinand
1987-Alysheba - 2/3 triple crown
1988-Winning Colors
1989-Sunday Silence -2/3 triple crown

1997-Silver Charm - 2/3 triple crown
1998-Real Quiet - 2/3 triple crown
1999-Charismatic -2/3 triple crown
2005-Giacomo

Preakness and Belmont winner
2001 - Point Determined 2/3 triple crown

* A.P. Indy *
*Snow Cheif *

6 of the last 8 2/3 winners have came from the WEST...

TEKNIQUE
14-05-2006, 03:33 AM
1.i said over the past 5 YEARS. not stuff from 85 (lol)
2. what has the west done lately?

Top Of The Lane
14-05-2006, 08:34 AM
lmao... 2005
1ST IN THE DERBY...
3RD INTEH PREAKNESS

Daylami
14-05-2006, 11:21 PM
If he did come over here it be a wasted trip anyway Hurricane Run would outclass him and so probably would Deep Impact for that matter. A reason why Europe dominates the Breeders Cup Turf and most Turf race is because there quality is so much better

Arkle
15-05-2006, 03:54 AM
I don’t think there is a chance that a US horse would be aimed at the Arc, it would be too big a risk.

Love to see the Japanese triple crown winner Deep Impact race in Europe – surely he has to be one of the best horses on the planet right now.

Daylami
15-05-2006, 07:31 AM
Hurricane Run v Deep Impact that would be a great race not forgetting adding the 3 year olds to mix horses like Horatio Nelson, Sir Percy and Visindar and this years Arc would be a great race and if Barbalo did run it would be a great international affair but Longchamp in Autumn is normally soft and if i am right in thinking he only ever won on fast going on the turf (correct me if i am wrong).

TEKNIQUE
15-05-2006, 12:01 PM
dont sleep on our turf runners. i remember when lure sent the euro horses home 2 years in a row with his back to back wins in the bc mile. and nobody saw that coming and yes euro horses are better on turf then the usa horses
because thats all they know its thair first course in europe. just like the dirt/pollytrack is our first course.

Top Of The Lane
19-05-2006, 07:08 AM
well the post positions are in for th Preakness....

Brother Derek is right inside of BARBARO....

The Brother Derek Bandwagon leaves 5-21-06 10:00am Pacific time... lol

Top Of The Lane
19-05-2006, 07:08 AM
well the post positions are in for th Preakness....

Brother Derek is right inside of BARBARO....

The Brother Derek Bandwagon leaves 5-21-06 10:00am Pacific time... lol