probable broncos team for WCC

[Broncos_R sick07]

Possible line-up: Darius Boyd, Denan Kemp, Nick Emmett, Steve Michaels, Gideon Mzembe, Greg Eastwood, Shane Perry, David Stagg, Brad Thorn, Dane Carlaw, Corey Parker, Michael Ennis, Ben Hannant, David Taylor, Nick Kenny, Joel Moon, Ian Lacey.

i was on their site and thats the possible team that Bruno Cullen said, i rekon we still have a chance though:D

[eagles4ever]

So players in AUS dont play?

[Broncos_R sick07]

So players in AUS dont play?
The Aussie players get 8 weeks off at some point in the off season and the WCC is during the 8 weeks

[Mickyl84]

The Aussie players get 8 weeks off at some point in the off season and the WCC is during the 8 weeks


they get more than 8 weeks off .

Im not sure when tri nations finishes but im sue its not before half way through December.
wcc HAS BEEN ON THE WEEK OF 14 FEB FOR AS LONG AS I can Remember so that is more that is around 8 weeks.
There is no excuse if you lose this time like you most probably will.

[Toolman]

There is an excuse if they field this team.

[Broncos nut]

this will not be the team they want to win and will play at full strength if injurys allow and will win

[eagles4ever]

they get more than 8 weeks off .

Im not sure when tri nations finishes but im sue its not before half way through December.
wcc HAS BEEN ON THE WEEK OF 14 FEB FOR AS LONG AS I can Remember so that is more that is around 8 weeks.
There is no excuse if you lose this time like you most probably will.

Excuse: No Lockyer, Hodges, Hunt, Webcke, Carroll?, Berrigan. Arguably their best 6 players from the grand final not in the team.

[Long Live User 1640]

Possible line-up: Darius Boyd, Denan Kemp, Nick Emmett, Steve Michaels, Gideon Mzembe, Greg Eastwood, Shane Perry, David Stagg, Brad Thorn, Dane Carlaw, Corey Parker, Michael Ennis, Ben Hannant, David Taylor, Nick Kenny, Joel Moon, Ian Lacey.

i was on their site and thats the possible team that Bruno Cullen said, i rekon we still have a chance though:D

Moon should really be at five-eighth with Eastwood on the bench IMO.

EDIT: Scratch that. Eastwood should be centre, Michaels wing, Mzembe or Kemp benched.

[rolande]

In all honest that team sounds like bogus. Parker would play 8 with stagg in backrow and theres no way ennis would play 12 because he is 1st choice if not 2nd choice hooker.

[believeleeds]

I don't see why the RFL and NRL don't try to arrange it after the Grand Finals when both squads are still in tact. It's never any more than a pre season friendly for the Aussies, we should try and give them an incentive so we actually have a competition that means something...

[Midnight]

Who cares if the Broncos win or not? The WCC means jack !

[Manero]

Tony Carroll would probably play if he misses Tri nations. But I wouldnt be surprised if the ESL team wins this, its a very understrength side. Only 7 of the players listed played in the Grand Final.

[Long Live User 1640]

In all honest that team sounds like bogus. Parker would play 8 with stagg in backrow and theres no way ennis would play 12 because he is 1st choice if not 2nd choice hooker.

Lol Rolande. They named it in the "old" order. 1-7 and then 13-8. Should make sense to you now. :p

[rolande]

Who cares if the Broncos win or not? The WCC means jack !

only coz ur a cowboys supporter elliot!

[Midnight]

only coz ur a cowboys supporter elliot!
Noo...The WCC is pointless and only the English take it seriously because it gives them a chance to attempt to boast about English clubs being better then Australian clubs.

[Mickyl84]

Noo...The WCC is pointless and only the English take it seriously because it gives them a chance to attempt to boast about English clubs being better then Australian clubs.


Our WCC Record speaks for its self.

Dont tell me Aussie teams dont care.

Have a look at the starting lineup from the teams that have come and played in the world club challenge and then tell me they dont care.

[Manero]

Our WCC Record speaks for its self.

Dont tell me Aussie teams dont care.

Have a look at the starting lineup from the teams that have come and played in the world club challenge and then tell me they dont care.

Looking at the Broncos line up, they dont care.

[Midnight]

I can remember Tim Sheens saying last year "Our main focus is round 1 of our title defence, not the WCC" Or somthing on the lines of that.

It is nothing more then a trial match for Aussie teams. The Australian team has to battle jetlag,under strength teams and the poor weather. Australian teams don't take it serious. End of story. ;)

[Long Live User 1640]

Regardless of how seriously the teams take out or the lineups they choose, I will never take anything from the WCC for one simple reason.

The sides that play are actually from the squads for the following season. For example, the Wests Tigers won the NRL premiership in 2005. Their 2006 squad played the WCC.. their 2006 squad was ordinary in the NRL and didn't make the finals.

If they want it to be taken seriously, they have to play it earlier with the squads from the season the team actually won the grand final with.

[Toolman]

The last side who won the Grand Final and managed to remain one of the top teams was the Roosters in 02/03.. and they won the WCC 38-0.

[Eels_2006_Premiers]

If teams are any hope of winning the world club challenge, then they should name and put the best team possible for the game. Without the likes of Hodges, Tate, Berrigan, Lockyer, Civoniceva and Carroll, the Broncos are going to struggle.

[Mickyl84]

Looking at the Broncos line up, they dont care.

Look at the Broncos Lineup? Its 4 months away how do you know what the lineup is going to be?:)

[Mickyl84]

I can remember Tim Sheens saying last year "Our main focus is round 1 of our title defence, not the WCC" Or somthing on the lines of that.

It is nothing more then a trial match for Aussie teams. The Australian team has to battle jetlag,under strength teams and the poor weather. Australian teams don't take it serious. End of story. ;)



Stop Talking out of your bumhole... They battle Jet lag????? Does Jet lag last over a week? Under strength teams? Is Johns , Buderus, M & K Gidley Understrength for the Knights Is Wesser, Campbell, Gower & Priddis Under strength For the Panthers? Is Prince, Wathuira, and whoever else for the Tigers Under strength? No I didnt think so.
Bad Weather ? Does it Not rain In NSW ? Did it rain in all 3 WCC,s mentioned, Was it cold ? No I dont think so either ?

You got beaT by better teams!!!.............. Now that is the End of the story.

[Long Live User 1640]

Stop Talking out of your bumhole... They battle Jet lag????? Does Jet lag last over a week? Under strength teams? Is Johns , Buderus, M & K Gidley Understrength for the Knights Is Wesser, Campbell, Gower & Priddis Under strength For the Panthers? Is Prince, Wathuira, and whoever else for the Tigers Under strength? No I didnt think so.
Bad Weather ? Does it Not rain In NSW ? Did it rain in all 3 WCC,s mentioned, Was it cold ? No I dont think so either ?

You got beaT by better teams!!!.............. Now that is the End of the story.

The Tigers played the entire NRL season this year with a better side than the one that took the field for the WCC. They finished 10th. Enough said.

The fact that the games are played with the squads for the following seasons basically means that it is nothing more than a trial match. If they want it to be taken seriously, they'll use the squads from the season in which the premiership was won.

[Mickyl84]

The Tigers played the entire NRL season this year with a better side than the one that took the field for the WCC. They finished 10th. Enough said.

The fact that the games are played with the squads for the following seasons basically means that it is nothing more than a trial match. If they want it to be taken seriously, they'll use the squads from the season in which the premiership was won.


Its the same for both sides so stop making excuses.

[greg th wire]

so u think during th WCC games, the players that go out on the pitch dont try their best? of course they do. next years brisbane team will be the olny under strength side to play in a WCC game in a long time. we have won more, just shut up with your excuses.:rolleyes:

[Mickyl84]

so u think during th WCC games, the players that go out on the pitch dont try their best? of course they do. next years brisbane team will be the olny under strength side to play in a WCC game in a long time. we have won more, just shut up with your excuses.:rolleyes:


they are crackers arnt they?

[meanasmullet]

i actually cant believe that the pommys care about the WCC. look at the panthers, most of them played half cut and one of them said its just a big up and holiday for them and by the looks of that team it should say what they think of the WCC. its not worth the hassles

[Mickyl84]

i actually cant believe that the pommys care about the WCC. look at the panthers, most of them played half cut and one of them said its just a big up and holiday for them and by the looks of that team it should say what they think of the WCC. its not worth the hassles


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugb...rd/3485193.stm


looks pretty strong to me.

Tell me another excuse:) :) :) :)

Ooh Ooh they had there shorts on bck to front Or there wife told them not to hurt anyone..:) :)

2004 Panthers...Penrith: Wesser, Howland, L. Lewis, Whatuira, Rooney, Campbell, Gower, Clinton, Priddis, Lang, Galuvao, T. Puletua, Waterhouse. Replacements: Ross, Ward, Rodney, Swain

[meanasmullet]

what you just wrote had nothing to do with what i was talking about, just face it the nrl just treats it as a pre season warm up not a big time game

[Mickyl84]

i actually cant believe that the pommys care about the WCC. look at the panthers, most of them played half cut and one of them said its just a big up and holiday for them and by the looks of that team it should say what they think of the WCC. its not worth the hassles


You were talking about the panthers right?

Saying they were understrength? So I posted the 04 WCC team for ya.

[knghts9]

Lol. I love reading the WCC thread because its like the Aussies are telling the Poms thats they dont care and they Poms are trying to make the Aussies care.

[Mickyl84]

Join In, Mi Old Mucker, its great:)

[knghts9]

I dont really care about the WCC. if my team was playing i would like them to win but i couldnt give a if they lost.

[Ritalindude]

Player who played in GF in bold:


2005: Bulldogs vs Leeds

1. Luke Patten
2. Hazem El Masri
3. Jamaal Lolesi
4. Willie Tonga
5. Trent Cutler
6. Braith Anasta
7. Corey Hughes
8. Chris Armit
9. Adam Perry
10. Roy Asotasi
11. Sonny-Bill Williams
12. Reni Maitua
13. Tony Grimaldi (c).
Subs: Ben Czislowski, Nate Myles, Brett Oliver, Adam Brideson


No Utai, Sherwin, O'Meley, Price, Ryan and a bench with 4 PL players.

[Ritalindude]

2006: Tigers vs Bradford

1. Brett Hodgson
2. Shannon McDonnell
3. Dean Collis
4. Paul Whatuira
5. Jamaal Lolesi
6. Daniel Fitzhenry
7. Scott Prince
8. Ryan O'Hara
9. Robbie Farah
10. John Skandalis
11. Anthony Laffranchi
12. Chris Heighington
13. Ben Galea

Subs:
14. Bryce Gibbs
15. Liam Fulton
16. Bronson Harrison
17. Sam Harris

Rookie pairing of Shannon McDonnel and Dean Collis, Daniel Fitzhenry at five eigth, Jamaal Loseli playing his first game with the Tigers and some PL players.

[Mickyl84]

There still good enough though, It workes the same for both teams.

[Ritalindude]

There still good enough though, It workes the same for both teams.
Where that Bulldogs team finished next year: 12th or 13th
Where that Tigers team finished: 14th

Care to post the Superleague teams squads and who played in the GF?

[Mickyl84]

yeah Ill have a look for them for how many?

[Ritalindude]

yeah Ill have a look for them for how many?
Just the '04 and '05 will do, because I just used the squads Guest posted.

[Doggiesfan]

The Aussie players get 8 weeks off at some point in the off season and the WCC is during the 8 weeks

Are you trying to tell us that the Broncos players will have a month long pre-season? LOL!!! Mate, their eight week break will end mid-January.

[meanasmullet]

i didnt say the panthers were under strength, i said they were half cut. as in ed as.. thats all they went over there for. i give up now this thread sucks. going to watch bathurst

[Mickyl84]

2005 ESL GF

Bradford Bulls


1. Michael Withers
2. Leon Pryce
3. Ben Harris
4. Shontayne Hape
5. Lesley Vainikolo
6. Iestyn Harris
7. Paul Deacon
8. Jamie Pea
9. Ian Henderson
10. Stuart Fielden
11. Paul Johnson
12. Brad Meyers
13. Lee Radford
Subs:
14. Robbie Paul
15. Jamie Langley
16. Adrian Morley
17. Joe Vagana



2006 WCC Bradford Bulls


1 Michael Withers,
2 Marcus Bai,
3 Ben Harris,
4 Shontayne Hape,
5 Lesley Vainikolo,
17 Karl Pryce,
6 Iestyn Harris [c],
29 Stuart Fielden,
9 Ian Henderson,
14 Andy Lynch,
12 Paul Johnson,
10 Brad Meyers,
16 Jamie Langley.

Subs:
8 Joe Vagana,
15 Stanley Gene,
19 Brett Ferres,
20 Matt Cook.

All in Bold Didnt play 2005 GF

Bulls had lost for the 2006 WCC

Leon Pryce
Jamie Pea (GB captain)
Robbie Paul ( Club Captain
Lee Radford
Adrian Morley.

Kind of even really isnt it?

I aint doing that again it took me ages.:)

[Ritalindude]

All in Bold Didnt play 2005 GF

Are you saying they all played or was that a typo?


If it was, then yeah, I didnt realise how even it was.

[Mickyl84]

All the ones in bold in the 06 WCC Squad didnt play in the 05 ESL GF

[Mickyl84]

i didnt say the panthers were under strength, i said they were half cut. as in ed as.. thats all they went over there for. i give up now this thread sucks. going to watch bathurst


Sorry John that was Midnight who said it.

[Alec]

Possible line-up: Darius Boyd, Denan Kemp, Nick Emmett, Steve Michaels, Gideon Mzembe, Greg Eastwood, Shane Perry, David Stagg, Brad Thorn, Dane Carlaw, Corey Parker, Michael Ennis, Ben Hannant, David Taylor, Nick Kenny, Joel Moon, Ian Lacey.

i was on their site and thats the possible team that Bruno Cullen said, i rekon we still have a chance though:D

Who the hell is Gideon Mzembe?

Good to see Taylor and Lacey in the side though.

[Manero]

Are you trying to tell us that the Broncos players will have a month long pre-season? LOL!!! Mate, their eight week break will end mid-January.


Brisbane chief executive Bruno Cullen said he planned to give his representative players an eight-week holiday after their Tri Nations commitments, with the series final scheduled for November 25.

That would mean as many as 10 players wouldn’t be back on deck until just a few days before the annual encounter between the NRL champions and English title holders, which has been marked in for the first weekend of February.

That means they get back around Janurary 25 and they wouldn't play the week after in a match without training.

[Doggiesfan]

That means they get back around Janurary 25 and they wouldn't play the week after in a match without training.

But he said that their holiday overlaps the WCC. It doesn't. Thats all I'm saying.

[Long Live User 1640]

2005 ESL GF

Bradford Bulls


1. Michael Withers
2. Leon Pryce
3. Ben Harris
4. Shontayne Hape
5. Lesley Vainikolo
6. Iestyn Harris
7. Paul Deacon
8. Jamie Pea
9. Ian Henderson
10. Stuart Fielden
11. Paul Johnson
12. Brad Meyers
13. Lee Radford
Subs:
14. Robbie Paul
15. Jamie Langley
16. Adrian Morley
17. Joe Vagana



2006 WCC Bradford Bulls


1 Michael Withers,
2 Marcus Bai,
3 Ben Harris,
4 Shontayne Hape,
5 Lesley Vainikolo,
17 Karl Pryce,
6 Iestyn Harris [c],
29 Stuart Fielden,
9 Ian Henderson,
14 Andy Lynch,
12 Paul Johnson,
10 Brad Meyers,
16 Jamie Langley.

Subs:
8 Joe Vagana,
15 Stanley Gene,
19 Brett Ferres,
20 Matt Cook.

All in Bold Didnt play 2005 GF

Bulls had lost for the 2006 WCC

Leon Pryce
Jamie Pea (GB captain)
Robbie Paul ( Club Captain
Lee Radford
Adrian Morley.

Kind of even really isnt it?

I aint doing that again it took me ages.:)

It really doesn't matter if its even or not though. What matters is the fact that the sides change so much from the grand final, and the whole squad composition changes. It's not a battle between the best of each competition anymore. Bradford beat the 10th best 2006 NRL side in the World Club Challenge - not something to be particularly proud of.

[Long Live User 1640]

Its the same for both sides so stop making excuses.

It doesn't matter if its the same for both sides or not though. It's not a battle between the best side of each competition, because the use the squads for the following season.

[Doggiesfan]

It really doesn't matter if its even or not though. What matters is the fact that the sides change so much from the grand final, and the whole squad composition changes. It's not a battle between the best of each competition anymore. Bradford beat the 10th best 2006 NRL side in the World Club Challenge - not something to be particularly proud of.

And Leeds, in 2005, beat the equal 13th best side of 2005 which is alos not really something to be proud of.

[Mickyl84]

Nobody thought they would finish 10th though did they?

Look at it this way.... They also beat the reighning NRL champions....Is that something to be proud of?:)

[Long Live User 1640]

Where that Bulldogs team finished next year: 12th or 13th
Where that Tigers team finished: 14th

Care to post the Superleague teams squads and who played in the GF?

Ritalindude, the Tigers finished 10th, not 14th. The last round bye saved us. :p

[Long Live User 1640]

Nobody thought they would finish 10th though did they?

Look at it this way.... They also beat the reighning NRL champions....Is that something to be proud of?:)

Its not something to be proud of at all because most NRL sides managed it!

Whether they were expected to come 10th or not is irrelevant to the quality of the side. They were an average side at best for the majority of the season and fielded their worst side of the year in that match.

[Mickyl84]

What differance does it make whos won it?? Or how many times? The winner of the game will have beaten the reighning ESL/NRL Champs

[Jigglez]

NRL > ESL

Enough said.

[Long Live User 1640]

What differance does it make whos won it?? Or how many times? The winner of the game will have beaten the reighning ESL/NRL Champs

Yeah, and in the case of the Wests Tigers, so did most of the NRL teams that year.

Congratulations to Bradford for beating the tenth best 2006 NRL squad without its best player in the pre-season.

[Ritalindude]

Ritalindude, the Tigers finished 10th, not 14th. The last round bye saved us. :p
All I can remember is Tim Sheens saying "we'll be the best team to ever finish second last". If it werent for those pesky byes, he'd be right.

[Long Live User 1640]

All I can remember is Tim Sheens saying "we'll be the best team to ever finish second last". If it werent for those pesky byes, he'd be right.

Well not really, because every team had two byes. It's not like we cheated to get to tenth! :p

[Mickyl84]

Yeah, and in the case of the Wests Tigers, so did most of the NRL teams that year.

Congratulations to Bradford for beating the tenth best 2006 NRL squad without its best player in the pre-season.


Come on mate dont get sour Grapes!:)

[hazemelmasri]

Might as well give the Superleague title to St Helens, Hull arent gonna win.

[Mickyl84]

Might as well give the Superleague title to St Helens, Hull arent gonna win.

Thats what I say.

[timber12]

Player who played in GF in bold:


2005: Bulldogs vs Leeds

1. Luke Patten
2. Hazem El Masri
3. Jamaal Lolesi
4. Willie Tonga
5. Trent Cutler
6. Braith Anasta
7. Corey Hughes
8. Chris Armit
9. Adam Perry
10. Roy Asotasi
11. Sonny-Bill Williams
12. Reni Maitua
13. Tony Grimaldi (c).
Subs: Ben Czislowski, Nate Myles, Brett Oliver, Adam Brideson


No Utai, Sherwin, O'Meley, Price, Ryan and a bench with 4 PL players.

Hughes, perry and grimaldi all played in the grand final too.

[xgames]

they always play in britain and neva in aus even tho im not even australian

[knghts9]

Who the hell is Gideon Mzembe?

Good to see Taylor and Lacey in the side though.

He Looks like Wendall Sailor, Good winger.

[knghts9]

they always play in britain and neva in aus even tho im not even australian

And your point is ?

[xgames]

And your point is ?

i hate those damn poms

[Mickyl84]

i hate those damn poms


There not Very Nice.
You gotta getta know someone before you can pass judgement on them..!!!:)
Take it easy

[rolande]

If St Helens win the SL GF, then i reckon Wayne Bennett will send a full team just to show how big the gulf between the NRL and the Superleague really is.

[monaro_man_91]

I wish we would pick our full strength lineups, then we could show the Super League what we're made of.

[believeleeds]

I wish we would pick our full strength lineups, then we could show the Super League what we're made of.
I wish the NRL premiers would take it seriously too. As I've already said, it needs re-working so both sides are still in tact after the Grand Final and it's not treated as a pre season warm up.

It's started to become an anti climax in my opinion. Although some games are close, we want to see the worlds best on show and most of the time they aren't.