Attention Mario, Does a Chipped Wii stop a Retail Version From Working ?

Knights4Premiers · 16-03-2010, 08:45 PM

As a couple of the Forumers have said they have chipped Wii's and the Game is not working for them, is this a Faulty Game ?

As much as this post may look like im a Pirate, im not a can Provide proof of a pre-order. The reason i ask this, My Missus has a Chipped Wii. If i take my RETAIL version over it should work right ? Im just weary, Being i bought the game for the both of us...

Cheers.

User Feed back if you have a chipped Wii would be appreciated

adam2893 · 16-03-2010, 09:12 PM

LOL for anyone that gets a Wii chipped when you can softmod any firmware on any Wii

Matster_Au · 16-03-2010, 09:17 PM

Doesn't work on mine,
All locked except the Quick Play option,
Didn't even know my Wii was chipped (eBay purchase) not running any homebrew etc.
But apparently it does have a chip inside.
Will upload screen shots later tonight with my Game, Reciept and Screen Shot of the T.V

After initially being cranky, i can see where they're coming from.. Small developer would lose an incredible amount on a game like this if piracy was an option.
I won't be buying another Wii though just for this game.

Mario · 16-03-2010, 09:21 PM

If somebody has modified their Wii, voiding their warranty, and the game doesn't allow them to play then I suggest finding either a way to turn the modification off or return the game to the store.

Matster_Au · 16-03-2010, 09:27 PM

It's a loss of genuine sales to stop piracy...
seems a little backwards but understandable.
I was just initially worried there was something wrong with my disc.
Seems like a very demo like issue.

davery · 16-03-2010, 09:38 PM

It sounds very much like you've been given a demo disc (Did you buy it from a store with a demo unit?)

I'd take it back and ask for a replacement disc, to be sure to be sure

Knights4Premiers · 16-03-2010, 09:40 PM

So i guess that's a yes. It's a bit of a kick in the back if you ask me if thats the case seeing i bought a retail copy.

Should i just ask for my money back ?

Matster_Au · 16-03-2010, 09:41 PM

No it was from EB sealed game delivered today.
QLD didn't get any demo stores.
Mario's silence explains it all really.

Mario · 16-03-2010, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Knights4Premiers

Should i just ask for my money back ?

If you can't turn your mod chip off, yes, you should.

Knights4Premiers · 16-03-2010, 09:50 PM

Not being a techy how would i go about disabling it, taking the console apart scares me.

I dont remember the full name of the chip but i recall it being a wasabi or something or other ?

Mario · 16-03-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Knights4Premiers

Not being a techy how would i go about disabling it, taking the console apart scares me.

I dont remember the full name of the chip but i recall it being a wasabi or something or other ?

Some modchips allow you to disable them by holding down certain buttons on the controller during bootup. If you can find out the name of your modchip, then hopefully you can find out whether that is possible.

ManuTheBeast · 16-03-2010, 09:54 PM

Long time lurker, first time poster.

Is the situation the same for those with a softmodded wii or is this effecting those with an actual "chip", I softmodded my Wii in order to play the Brawl+ update that was made so nothing illegal, need some sort of clarification of whether this money I have tucked away saved can now be spent on something else

adam2893 · 16-03-2010, 09:55 PM

google has the answers what I have read about mod chips is that some are pretty easily turned off

adam2893 · 16-03-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ManuTheBeast

Long time lurker, first time poster.

Is the situation the same for those with a softmodded wii or is this effecting those with an actual "chip", I softmodded my Wii in order to play the Brawl+ update that was made so nothing illegal, need some sort of clarification of whether this money I have tucked away saved can now be spent on something else

I will be getting it tomorrow I will tell you if it works

ManuTheBeast · 16-03-2010, 09:57 PM

I'll keep my fingers crossed for us then

Mario · 16-03-2010, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ManuTheBeast

Is the situation the same for those with a softmodded wii or is this effecting those with an actual "chip", I softmodded my Wii in order to play the Brawl+ update that was made so nothing illegal, need some sort of clarification of whether this money I have tucked away saved can now be spent on something else

The situation will be the same for softmodding.

However, you should be able to reflash your Wii firmware with the proper one no problem as I understand it.

ManuTheBeast · 16-03-2010, 10:01 PM

Thanks for the hasty reply

guess I can get KFC for dinner lol

adam2893 · 16-03-2010, 10:08 PM

That's weird I have bought over 30 games for Wii and I can proudly say none where pirated and no game has ever had a system that stops you from using all the features.

ManuTheBeast · 16-03-2010, 10:12 PM

Yeah while my collection is substantially smaller than yours, I haven't had any problems. I guess the Sidhe crew came up with something new that the big dogs at Nintendo etc couldn't figure out.

I suppose those with the HUGE games, the fear is that you will alienate people like me or you who are modded for decent reasons while the hackers etc will just find a work around anyway and then those who wanted to buy legit but couldn't are forced to copy. Meanwhile in this situation it's probably not likely that hackers will strive to find a fix so it's just us small few that are up the creek.

Nickwpearce · 16-03-2010, 11:05 PM

yeah wont work on my wii, retail disc but works on my mates

i have a wiikey... he doesnt!!!!

oh well have to find a way to disable the modchip

adam2893 · 16-03-2010, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickwpearce

yeah wont work on my wii, retail disc but works on my mates

i have a wiikey... he doesnt!!!!

oh well have to find a way to disable the modchip

http://www.ehow.com/how_5043183_disable-wiikey.html

Knights4Premiers · 16-03-2010, 11:36 PM

Yeah, well i understand, but i can see hackers finding a way around this i mean they beat Nintendo's one for NSMB. So i think they could find away around what would be a tiny company compared to the Nintendo empire, in all respect to Sidhe, I have Bought and supported all of their products as them being a quality local GameMaker, Gripshift - PSP and PSN versions, Shatter, The RL Series, My yonger brother has the speed racer game. Not one copied or burnt version

I hope i can continue my collection, Can anyone help me out if the Wasabi DX chip can be Turnt off ?

The Dark Knight · 16-03-2010, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Knights4Premiers

Yeah, well i understand, but i can see hackers finding a way around this i mean they beat Nintendo's one for NSMB. So i think they could find away around what would be a tiny company compared to the Nintendo empire, in all respect to Sidhe, I have Bought and supported all of their products as them being a quality local GameMaker, Gripshift - PSP and PSN versions, Shatter, The RL Series, My yonger brother has the speed racer game. Not one copied or burnt version

I hope i can continue my collection, Can anyone help me out if the Wasabi DX chip can be Turnt off ?

Well they didn't find a way around the PS2 version of Rugby League 2!

Nickwpearce · 16-03-2010, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by adam2893

http://www.ehow.com/how_5043183_disable-wiikey.html

thanks champ, will give this a try, i dont even use the modchip any more and so keen to play this game without having to go into quick play until the knights pop up!!!

Radman · 17-03-2010, 12:01 AM

Mario, why even allow quick play to work, why not just lock the lot?.

adam2893 · 17-03-2010, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Knights4Premiers

Yeah, well i understand, but i can see hackers finding a way around this i mean they beat Nintendo's one for NSMB. So i think they could find away around what would be a tiny company compared to the Nintendo empire, in all respect to Sidhe, I have Bought and supported all of their products as them being a quality local GameMaker, Gripshift - PSP and PSN versions, Shatter, The RL Series, My yonger brother has the speed racer game. Not one copied or burnt version

I hope i can continue my collection, Can anyone help me out if the Wasabi DX chip can be Turnt off ?

From http://www.wasabi.net.cn/support.html

Q: Is it possible to disable the chip ?
A: Yes, we suggest using an external switch between point K and GND. The LED will stay red when the chip is disabled. In theory you could use one of the Wii buttons instead of an external switch but you'd need to remember holding it each time the drive is initialized.

I also found on a website that you can disable it via a options menu?? I don't have a mod chip or anything like that so I don't know if that is in the Wii settings or a separate thing all together

hado · 17-03-2010, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mario

The situation will be the same for softmodding.

However, you should be able to reflash your Wii firmware with the proper one no problem as I understand it.

No, it works well with a softmodded wii.

adam2893 · 17-03-2010, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Radman

Mario, why even allow quick play to work, why not just lock the lot?.

If you actually buy the game though then buying a completely useless thing is a rip off even though a barely usable thing is also a rip off not all modders are pirates though people with mod chips I feel are more likely to be pirates

Radman · 17-03-2010, 12:12 AM

Yeah, may be a silly question but Mario will hopefully give a logical answer.

Nickwpearce · 17-03-2010, 12:12 AM

didn't work for me chip disabled but still quick play only

Radman · 17-03-2010, 12:14 AM

Oh man...really?...bugger...

Have you tried the firmware update?.

Nickwpearce · 17-03-2010, 12:27 AM

yeah tried everything, my mates wii is softmodded so is mine, i dont use the chip at all, disabled it and still demo mode... oh well someone will make a patch i hope.... or maybe its a reason to buy a new sexy black wii!!!!

Matster_Au · 17-03-2010, 12:40 AM

This is the problem,
Plenty of people are doing the right thing and buying/supporting the game on release day.
And we can't play it.
I don't know why Sidhe tried this method when Nintendo had an antipiracy system on Mario Bros. i know that got beaten (but nearly everything does) but from what i hear no one with a retail copy had any problems.
With the amount of modded Wii's out there, this could cost them massively if 25% of people can't genuinely play it (if the number is that large or larger).

raysie · 17-03-2010, 12:47 AM

LOL. This could be another reason why the game was delayed. The whole time people had been waiting "patiently" to find out the game won't work on their Wii anyway.

Also to the positive people here, there will never be a patch for this game to play on modded Wiis. The series isn't popular enough to even be looked into.

If you want to play the game that bad, you're going to have to decide on the fate of your Wii. Or you could just buy another Wii

Well all I can say is Sidhe have managed to find a way to cut sales even without letting them play the games, that's genious if you ask me. Also on another note, the good thing about RL3 would've been no one would've pirated it anyway. So you've wasted money on Anti-Piracy and now less sales.

Knights4Premiers · 17-03-2010, 12:58 AM

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LOL. This could be another reason why the game was delayed. The whole time people had been waiting "patiently" to find out the game won't work on their Wii anyway.

Also to the positive people here, there will never be a patch for this game to play on modded Wiis. The series isn't popular enough to even be looked into.

If you want to play the game that bad, you're going to have to decide on the fate of your Wii. Or you could just buy another Wii

Well all I can say is Sidhe have managed to find a way to cut sales even without letting them play the games, that's genious if you ask me. Also on another note, the good thing about RL3 would've been no one would've pirated it anyway. So you've wasted money on Anti-Piracy and now less sales.

Can think of about 10 Sales you've lost already, Im not sure about laws but Nintendo recently got fined for this kind of act illegally blocking something out, This sounds like a very similar thing, i will post the article.

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We have just heard that Nintendo has today lost a major court case against the Divineo group in the main court of Paris. Nintendo originally took the group to court over DS flash carts, however the judge today has ruled against Nintendo and suggested that they are purposely locking out developers from their consoles and things should be more like Windows where ANYONE can develop any application if they wish to.

The ramifications of this are huge, as it indicates that flash carts are actually legal. Moroever, it could have bigger implications for developers and the like becauseNintendo is deemed to be 'illegally' protecting their system by locking users out. Therefore, developers should not actually require separate development kits and should just be able to develop applications as they wish on retail versions of Nintendo's consoles.

And on a final note, this truly was a HUGE court case, up in the main court of Paris France and seems likely to be relevant to the whole of Europe.

Essentially, if people have to 'hack' the system and use Flash Carts to do develop, then it's all fine because Nintendo has left them with little other choice and the system should not be protected in such a restrictive way.

Full court documents will be available soon.

Well when you buy a GAME or an piece of MEDIA content, regardless of what you have had done to your system why should the media be locked, My Wii is chipped for the sole purpose of importing games from the US.

I support the company still, im still buying them, just getting them cheaper, Im out raged. i wouldnt put it past them to of spent this time with the Piracy stuff to be honest...

Nickwpearce · 17-03-2010, 01:01 AM

i assume backup copies will work with softmodded wii's if the retail discs work???

someone will, the wii is very popular and there are people out there that would look at it as a challenge, but its only going to be popular in AUS/NZ and pommy land i guess

time will tell

raysie · 17-03-2010, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Knights4Premiers

Well when you buy a GAME or an piece of MEDIA content, regardless of what you have had done to your system why should the media be locked, My Wii is chipped for the sole purpose of importing games from the US.

I support the company still, im still buying them, just getting them cheaper, Im out raged. i wouldnt put it past them to of spent this time with the Piracy stuff to be honest...

I 100% agree. We bought the game as they wanted us to, what we have at home is NO ONE'S business.

As for having modded consoles, it is no different to having Linux on a PC...Except some people use the priviladges for the wrong things, such as piracy. I personally have a modded console for the reason that I always wanted to replay the games I owned as child that I had lost through growing up.

I'd like to thanks Sidhe and HES for this genious idea of theres. If they really cared about piracy they would've put it on the PS3.

Good thing it came out during this time anyway, I hardly had the cash for such an out-dated game anyway. I already had planned that God of War 3, Final Fantasy XIII and Pokemon SoulSilver for this month anyway. Another genious idea to delay to the best month in gaming ever.

hado · 17-03-2010, 01:23 AM

For all of those people that have a softmoded wii the reatil version of this game works 100%. I have both and they work great there shall be no promblem.

Knights4Premiers · 17-03-2010, 01:32 AM

I just need to find a way to turn off my Mod chip now...

Does anyone have an idea on Wasabi DX modchips, I cant find anything about them, ive Emailed their support, Thanks Adam, but i had already used my friend Google

But seriously its such a pain for a generous act. I Supported Sidhe because i want to see the franchise branch further, After you guys delayed it, a mate said to me 'They always do that, They have done it with the other two games' He suggested just downloading it, but no. I don't have a Modchip for that, You can frisk my house if you don't believe me, Australia over prices its games, I got SSBB for 25 AUD from England, Its still PAL but look at the price difference. I traded that exact game in to get RL3 for 20 Bucks at game.

Call me a bad person for importing games ? Almost every PS3 owner would have done it. But now A niche branding (Rugby League) has gone to lengths that not even NSMB went too. Which is now as Mario you can see, affecting some, It seems Mario doesn't care about the fact that i had paid for the game looking at his Posts above, i don't expect him to be pro piracy, but if a RL game leaked on the net on the day of the release I'd run at every single Forward in Rugby League. Myself, and others who have posted problems are innocent people Supporting your business, and ultimately your income...

ManuTheBeast · 17-03-2010, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by hado

For all of those people that have a softmoded wii the reatil version of this game works 100%. I have both and they work great there shall be no promblem.

Great news thanks for that, just wish you had posted before I took my money to buy the game tomorrow and got a variety bucket at k fry lol gotta wait until Thursday now